I really wanted to start a topic addressing Slim's book on the forum. Some of the old timers might recall a time way back when Dale (AKA Slim) posted on the Treasures of Utah forums, his thoughts though infrequent were always insightful and appreciated. Like many, as best I can tell Dale shied away from the forums after some of the infighting and unnecessary drama made these forums far from entertaining. I've seen Dale posting on Ancient Lost Treasures in reference to his book, and I'm hoping that by starting a thread here perhaps we can get some insights of his here as well.
My own experience with Dale personally is fairly limited, though very much memorable (from my vantage point at least). Dale drove me to the Cow Hollow forum gathering, which to this day stands out as one of my fondest memories connected with the forums. During the drive there and back we had a chance to discuss a great many topics, though nothing too in depth because it was a fairy short ride. Generally speaking it doesn't take long to uncover the character of an individual, least-wise not if you have an ounce of discernment. Dale earned my respect that day and from best I can gather that's not an uncommon event where he is concerned.
My purpose in writing this isn't to laud the praises of Dale, but rather conceptualize a framework for the author of the new book as I perceive him (and I trust many of you do as well). Part of what made this forum such a difficult place for many decent people was the unchecked provocation and character assaults that were carried out by grown men who have mentally never progressed beyond the schoolyard sandbox.
My purpose in starting this thread is to invite civilized, thoughtful, and thought-provoking discussion about Dale's book. This doesn't mean people should shy away from doubts, concerns, or criticisms they have. What it does mean is present your thoughts and questions in a civilized manner and give Dale a chance to respond (if he feels so inclined). Let's foster a community based on respect and rationale thought and not on unfounded conjecture, innuendo, and jealousy. The ink is barely dry on the books and people are murmuring. To the best of my knowledge the people that carry on so have nothing more to offer our hobby (for a lack of a better word) than bitterness, contempt, and the seeds of discord. Keep that in mind when the urge to hop on the bandwagon strikes you. If the best some people have to offer is baseless disparaging remarks oozing with bitterness and immaturity then what is really to be gained by giving them all but the briefest of thought.
I only just today received my copy of Dale's book, and just flipping through the pages I'm fairly taken back. Dale has provided a host of new maps, new photos, and GPS coordinates and has really composed what I feel is a fresh new look at a subject many might have argued a month ago had been talked to death. It has occurred to me that perhaps it's this notion of treading old ground that has made this site so slow lately, and perhaps there is something to that.
For my part I hope Dale has provided enough new insights and information to get people talking and thinking again...and more importantly...working TOGETHER again. Not to find gold, discover a long lost mine, or even solve the riddle of Carre Shin Ob. Working together can be limited to nothing more than cordial discourse of like-minded individuals sharing and discussing ideas. Nothing can be simpler, more enjoyable, or more fulfilling.
Thanks Dale for giving us all something to enjoy.
My own experience with Dale personally is fairly limited, though very much memorable (from my vantage point at least). Dale drove me to the Cow Hollow forum gathering, which to this day stands out as one of my fondest memories connected with the forums. During the drive there and back we had a chance to discuss a great many topics, though nothing too in depth because it was a fairy short ride. Generally speaking it doesn't take long to uncover the character of an individual, least-wise not if you have an ounce of discernment. Dale earned my respect that day and from best I can gather that's not an uncommon event where he is concerned.
My purpose in writing this isn't to laud the praises of Dale, but rather conceptualize a framework for the author of the new book as I perceive him (and I trust many of you do as well). Part of what made this forum such a difficult place for many decent people was the unchecked provocation and character assaults that were carried out by grown men who have mentally never progressed beyond the schoolyard sandbox.
My purpose in starting this thread is to invite civilized, thoughtful, and thought-provoking discussion about Dale's book. This doesn't mean people should shy away from doubts, concerns, or criticisms they have. What it does mean is present your thoughts and questions in a civilized manner and give Dale a chance to respond (if he feels so inclined). Let's foster a community based on respect and rationale thought and not on unfounded conjecture, innuendo, and jealousy. The ink is barely dry on the books and people are murmuring. To the best of my knowledge the people that carry on so have nothing more to offer our hobby (for a lack of a better word) than bitterness, contempt, and the seeds of discord. Keep that in mind when the urge to hop on the bandwagon strikes you. If the best some people have to offer is baseless disparaging remarks oozing with bitterness and immaturity then what is really to be gained by giving them all but the briefest of thought.
I only just today received my copy of Dale's book, and just flipping through the pages I'm fairly taken back. Dale has provided a host of new maps, new photos, and GPS coordinates and has really composed what I feel is a fresh new look at a subject many might have argued a month ago had been talked to death. It has occurred to me that perhaps it's this notion of treading old ground that has made this site so slow lately, and perhaps there is something to that.
For my part I hope Dale has provided enough new insights and information to get people talking and thinking again...and more importantly...working TOGETHER again. Not to find gold, discover a long lost mine, or even solve the riddle of Carre Shin Ob. Working together can be limited to nothing more than cordial discourse of like-minded individuals sharing and discussing ideas. Nothing can be simpler, more enjoyable, or more fulfilling.
Thanks Dale for giving us all something to enjoy.
